By Nikki
I want to try a thought experiment. Imagine if artists in a genre of music more normal than metal like hip hop or indie peppered their lyrics with references to one particular racist, misogynistic, paternalistic, and homophobic writer. The metal community would be outraged. You’d never hear the end of it. It would be like Ghostbusters all over again.
And yet, that’s what metal does and there’s nothing but silence. Since its inception, it has loaded itself up with tributes to the works of a racist, misogynistic, paternalistic, and homophobic writer. The writer I’m talking about, of course, is H.P. Lovecraft.
Lovecraft is remembered best as the creator of so-called Cthulhuism, a religion based around demons and gods from another dimension with a book called the Necronomicon as its bible. “Creator” probably isn’t the right word; appropriator is more like it, since I’m willing to bet he just basically took existing deities and traditions from marginalized “exotic” groups familiar to him and repackaged them in this way. I will admit I’m not a Lovecraft expert, but why would I want to be? What possible appeal could a serious study of the works of the man who wrote this have for me?
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove’s fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th’Olympian host conceiv’d a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
Allegedly this poem was written when Lovecraft was a young man, but his paleolithic attitudes about everyone who wasn’t a straight white cis male continued for basically the rest of his life. Lovecraft died in 1937…and that’s AD, not BC, in case you think there’s some sort of chronological excuse for this. At a time when queer POC transwomen were literally fighting for their lives, Lovecraft was sitting in his white suburb writing stories about fish men and zombies for science fiction magazines. How out of touch can a person be? Or I guess a better question would be how much more invested in the defense and expansion of the racist patriarchy can a person be?
As far as I can tell, the first Lovecraft reference in metal was a song by Black Sabbath called “Behind the Wall of Sleep” in 1970. It’s similar to the title of a story Lovecraft wrote called “Beyond the Wall of Sleep.” From the very beginning, then, this guy has been intertwined with metal.
And the references just kept coming. There are at least two Metallica songs — “the Call of Ktulu” and “the Thing That Should Not Be” — that are Lovecraft inspired. The further underground you go, of course, the more abundant the references become. Bands like Morbid Angel, Thergothon, Samael, Therion, and Nile have all used Lovecraftian themes. Even Electric Wizard — probably the best and most respected doom metal band other than Boris — has dabbled in Lovecraft. The English gothic grindcore band Cradle of Filth has made Lovecraft references. The German death metal band Sulphur Aeon is apparently exclusively Lovecraftian in theme — and they just started out in 2010! And all of this ignores the various bands named Cthulhu or Nyarlathotep (gods in Lovecraft’s religion).
Let’s face it: metal has failed to police itself. Oh sure, not every band writes songs about Lovecraft’s stories and gods, but you don’t see them rushing out to condemn the ones that do. This conspiracy of silence is like being an “apolitical” or “neutral” German in the 1930s. Neutrality is complicity and it is disgusting.
While metal refuses to step up to the plate, the same can fortunately not be said for the world of science fiction and fantasy. In 2015, the World Fantasy Convention announced that it would no longer use Lovecraft’s face as the template for one of its awards. While of course these genres of fiction have a myriad of issues not really worth going into here beyond Lovecraft, they’re at least on the right track to erasing one of the most detrimental influences on modern mass media.
So here we are now. What needs to happen is that metal as a community needs to make its voice heard and reject all forms of Lovecraftianism. And the thing is, so many people in metal talk about “scene tourists,” which is a sexist term for women who don’t listen primarily to metal but who want to explore it and who make the mistake of — gasp! — daring to speak up about all the fucked up stuff going on in it. Maybe it’s a genuine interest in getting to understand the music of men, maybe it’s morbid curiosity, maybe it’s for humor, who cares? They’re our ears, not yours. And frankly metal needs more “scene tourists” to get involved and aggressively speak up.
Gordon Ramsay — a celebrity chef and white male from the United Kingdom — made several TV shows based on going into restaurants that were failing and confronting the owners with the reasons why. It often takes an outsider’s perspective to understand why something is bad and to fully articulate the changes that must happen in order for that thing to improve. Metal needs a lot of work. And the first thing that needs to happen is for the genre to throw Lovecraft overboard and to close the book on the Necronomicon forever.
Metal Matters 
This is satire right? I honestly cannot tell if you are serious or pulling my leg.
You do realize that metal is founded on adolescent rebellion. Being offensive, un-pc and ‘evil’ are key elements. The uniform of metal is derived from outlaw biker attire. You know bikers, those famously circumspect people. Numerous bands play at being satanic, and a few are openly embracing nazism in an attempt to be even more ‘evil’.
If you draw a circle around an author or a book and declare it verboten, you are only guaranteeing that 100 hundred bands will write 200 songs on that.
And where do we stop?
I suppose Mark Twain and Joseph Conrad are both fair game. They both used the word nigger in various stories or books.
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Unfortunately it is not satire. Satire is a luxury that can be afforded only by the most privileged in our society, who more often than not have a vested interest in maintaining the hegemonic conditions that stifle meaningful discourse. Mark Twain and Joseph Conrad are both extremely problematic as well, and it’s possible that articles about Rush and Sodom are forthcoming to reflect that fact. We just can’t allow this to go on anymore.
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This is, hands down, the worst “article” I’ve ever read. This HAS to be satire. Nobody is seriously this misinformed. This is a bunch of PC safe space crap. Oh, there is no such thing as “the religion of Cthulhuism.”, so it sounds like you haven’t read any of his work. I also love the screams for diversity from a website with the tag line “If you disagree with us you’re part of the problem”. And are you SERIOUSLY saying that hip-hop polices itself? Hip-hop has gone down the toilet compared to where it was in the 1990s, where activism and cultural change were discarded for violence, and now songs about the club and T&A. Seriously, if this isn’t satire, delete your account. You need to be reading about logical fallacies instead of attempting to write this drivel.
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This is truly the most brilliant satire. Imagine some bizarro world where we decided what authors to read based on what their privately held beliefs were, wouldn’t that be crazy? Imagine if on the back of every book there was a list of beliefs the author had, or causes that they supported “Vegetarian, Republican, BDSM, Buddhist, Pro-Choice” and you could only buy books of the authors whose views, beliefs and even hobbies and interests matched up exactly with yours. To buy any other books would come under the category of thought-crime because it could be suggested that you supported the beliefs of the author whose books you were reading when you dont, causing all kinds of confusion for the thought-police. Best if everyone just sticks to an approved list of ideas, philosophies, beliefs and doctrines. Then we can all get along in uniform harmony.
And don’t try to be a sneaky thought-criminal and listen to bands who enjoy and reference authors who don’t match with your beliefs. We’ll know! Making music or lyrics inspired by an author’s work also means that you agree with and support all of their deepest held personal beliefs. And if you listen to music made by a band or artist who was inspired by an author’s work, then that means that you agree with, and support all of the band’s deepest held personal beliefs AND those of the author whose work they were inspired by.
And if you thought that we’d let you use that classic excuse “Times were different back then, people had different beliefs, morality isn’t a fixed thing, it demonstrably changes over time ” well guess again, Bucko! If you read books by any author who existed pre-enlightenment then we’ll have to assume that you also think that the earth is flat, and that anyone who’s not a Catholic is a heretic who deserves to be burnt at the stake. Reading Herodotus’ praise of the Lacedaemonians means that you also think that slavery is A-OK, that throwing disabled babies off of a cliff is brilliant, that pederasty is the highest form of love, and that all of these things are the reason that Lacedaemon is the pinnacle of civilisation. What, you don’t? Well you’d better stop reading all of that problematic ancient history then!
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SA ITI IAU MORTII IN PULA DE TARATURA!SA MA CAC IN PIZDA TA! MUIE DIN ADANCURI!!!!!!
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I’m sorry, but nobody on the Metal Matters staff speaks Romanian.
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Curvă.
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Curvă
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And this is why we now have Trump as President. Instead of exploring Lovecraft as a writer (warts and all) we should just abandon him for some safe zone approved everything with a white penis should be killed Women’s Studies contrivance. I voted for Hillary but your type of thinking feeds the image of Liberals as intolerant control freaks who hate America and want to dictate how everyone lives. Draw your attention to The Ballad of Black Tom to see how an African American writer deals with both his love of and frustration with Lovecraft. Or leave metal alone and go back to your safe zone and color in your coloring books. This PC thuggery like practiced by the World Fantasy Awards which itself degrades the untalented so maybe should move to participation trophies, only helps conservatives.
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Bringing awareness to prejudice did not cause Trump’s election. The issue of Trump’s election — actually selection — has been addressed already by this website, but additional reasons would include racism, Russian disinformation, and voter suppression.
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Agree 100%
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Black Metal will burn mosques and gender studies universities, tufele de Veneția,curvelor și bulangilor.
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I have no doubt that black metal enthusiasts would indeed feel the need to destroy the safe spaces that women, the LGBTQIA community, and Muslims have made for themselves.
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No one deserve safe spaces. Metal should police itself from moral bussy-bodies who like metal but pretend to like it to bring their agenda into it. This agenda is fuck white cishet males. Go listen to Beyonce and Lil’ Wayne,poseur. You and Kent Hovind should marry because your criticism of Lovecraft’s works is like his criticism of evolution.
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No one deserve safe spaces. Metal should police itself from moral bussy-bodies who don’t like metal but pretend to like it to bring their agenda into it. This agenda is fuck white cishet males. Go listen to Beyonce and Lil’ Wayne,poseur. You and Kent Hovind should marry because your criticism of Lovecraft’s works is like his criticism of evolution.
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Black Metal will burn mosques and gender studies universities.
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Ai de pula mea! Mascarici ca voi sunt de toata rusinea. N-ai citit Lovecraft si ne predici noua ca ar fi un pacat ca ne place opera lui? N-aveti nimic mai bun de facut decat sa va dati aere de intelectuali si sa va prefaceti ca salvati oamenii de ei insusi! Sunteti prea egoisti sa va dati seama ca nu ajutati pe nimeni si ca faceti mai mult rau decat bine. Sunteti de toata jena!
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Ai de pula mea! Mascarici ca voi sunt de toata rusinea. N-ai citit Lovecraft si ne predici noua ca ar fi un pacat ca ne place opera lui? N-aveti nimic mai bun de facut decat sa va dati aere de intelectuali si sa va prefaceti ca salvati oamenii de ei insusi! Sunteti prea egoisti sa va dati seama ca nu ajutati pe nimeni si ca faceti mai mult rau decat bine.Sunteti de toata jena!
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Lovecraft was a sociophobic asperger autist with medical issues like photophobia and maldigestion. He lived time of his live in Providence in the house of his family because like most aspergers he was ridden by fear of changing routine. After he married Sonia Haft Greene he tried to live in Brooklyn, because she was his primary attachement figure (and he probably loved her very intensely), but he needed to return to Providence because the amount of sensory stimulus in Brooklyn overburdened him.
Saying that Lovecraft was afraid of everything that was not a straight white male is such a superficial, ahistorical and incorrect thing to say – especially due to the fact that his whole biography is so easily researched and there even exists a complete book about his mindset and condition: https://www.amazon.de/Lovecrafts-Syndrome-Aspergers-Appraisal-Writers/dp/1502994410.
When you research Asperger autism you will easily find that they often have a disposition towards (social) anxiety and behavior that seems (!) arrogant or repellent. And especially Lovecraft saw himself as a heir of British aristocracy and the explorers that stranded in New-England. He experienced himself as far more intelligent (what may have been due to his condition) and sophisticated and in every way distanced to other people. Of course especially working and less traditionally educated folks from colonies or eastern Europe that show “strange behaviors and rituals”, like he describes in The Case of Charles Dexter Ward.
Lovecraft has been so classist and snobbish because he was distanced – even isolated – from everyone around him, even more than Aspergers are today. His only means of communication was the compulsory writing of letters to fellow authors, and his main agitation were reading of scientific literature and writing of his workings.
H.P. Lovecraft is such a misunderstood character, because his “racism, classism and elitism” is regarded out of the context of his autism and the very rare conditions that he was living under, and which drove him into a disconnection from other humans and perhaps even a little bit of reality itself. And this is the problem: You have here an Asperger autist with perhaps a higher intellect and sensory processing sensitivity that is not only emotionally detached from other human beings, bust also has massive problems to relate or even emphasize with people from different cultures, which he expresses in ways that we describe as racist, because we assume that he would have been able to be in an other mental state like he was.
A little bit of research would have shown that he was not. He was the strange and indescribable alien in his stories, and he captured his own isolation and the meaninglessness of ordinary but also intellectual human life out of an ivory tower which he constructed because he had nothing else to do and few people he really could relate to.
Lovecraft was an outstanding character that really has earned a second and deeper look like this superficial essay, which lacks of his condition and the Zeitgeist of the times he lived in.
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Hear, Hear.
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This is, hands down, the worst “article” I’ve ever read. This HAS to be satire. Nobody is seriously this misinformed. This is a bunch of PC safe space crap. Oh, there is no such thing as “the religion of Cthulhuism.”, so it sounds like you haven’t read any of his work. I also love the screams for diversity from a website with the tag line “If you disagree with us you’re part of the problem”. And are you SERIOUSLY saying that hip-hop polices itself? Hip-hop has gone down the toilet compared to where it was in the 1990s, where activism and cultural change were discarded for violence, and now songs about the club and T&A. Seriously, if this isn’t satire, delete your account. You need to be reading about logical fallacies instead of attempting to write this drivel.
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“Nikki has been a fan of metal since 2015” HURRRRRR there ya go folks.
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Im a long time fan of Lovecraft and I can tell this author doesn’t know anything about about Lovecraft. it is not “lovecraftianism” or “Cthulhuism”, It is The Cthulhu Mythos and in real life he had only contempt for organized religion. It is not a religion that he created, it is Sci-Fi/Horror universe. Lovecraft often states in his tales that pagan gods (especially African and Native American) are actually venerating these God-Like aliens or the vague memory their ancestors passed down to them. And Necronomicon is a book that appears in his stories. It was described as a book written by “the mad Arab, Abdul Alhazred” who interacted with These aliens in an unspecified manner, but it was never an actual physical book (Especially because he never published a book, only short stories); and since Lovecraft encouraged other writers to use his universe, that was what expanded the contents of the Necronomicon, and there are “Necronomicon” books out there but they fan made witchcraft books with spooky drawings and compilations of his short stories or those written by Lovecraft’s circle of friends. And finally every one who knows anything about Lovecraft knows that he was a racist xenophobe, but his fans don’t care be cause we don’t have to like the the man to love his stories.
PS: I don’t get the Misogyny and Homophobia angle you are using, given that he let his wife write a story that he thought of letting her get the credit, and I cannot recall him writhing homosexuals in his tales. Just be honest, you are just throwing all the standard smear buzz-words hoping something sticks.
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Poor argumentation, silly values, agenda-ridden rhetoric, policing others, totalitarian mindset… You are actually worse than Lovecraft ever was, and you did it with a single article.
Your crime is a lack of perspective, taking the mindset of a failure who died young and attributing his worst personal opinions (that were barely controversial during his time) and assume everyone who enjoys his works or influences pay tribute to those sides of him.
No one needs to be spoken up against, you should merely ignore what you do not enjoy. Personally I will ignore you from now on, not because I don’t enjoy your inept rambling, but because I genuinly believe you are a bad person. I hope life turns out better for you.
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This article is seriously ableist, so it has to be satire or possibly a very stupid writer (you can’t tell nowadays).
But I say, you take on metal with all you got, because I already know what the result will be. You can tell the metal community what offends you, and you’ll immediately get more of it 😉
The analogy with Gordon Ramsey is even more idiotic, since he *is* an outsider, but he’s also a *chef*. Clearly you don’t know anything about the metal community. The day you graduate from being a “scene tourist” is the day you realize all this SJW stuff is bullshit. Metal and being the morality police is mutually exclusive.
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The day metal caves to the likes of you is the day I’ll stop listening to it.
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this is the cancer that will first creat PC metal or blackmetal+ and then make metal become more of a joke to normies than it already is.
just for you to remember: this is the exact same thing that made ocuppy wallstreet disapear and that made atheism to divide into SJW atheists and everyone else
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Okay, so to begin with, you criticize people for using references to Lovecraft but you admit to never having examined his work. Have you ever bothered reading into why people like Lovecraft? Most people I have either spoke to or listened to who like his work, like it because they are great tales about cosmic beings from beyond the known. He is very influential in his approach to horror.
Yes, the man was a racist, but his books are a relic of the time he grew up in. The Civil Rights Movement didn’t start until the 1960’s, which is one of the most influential movements when it comes to the rights of Black people in the USA and the UK. Gay Pride didn’t start until the 1970’s which, like with the Civil Rights Movement, was fairly influential in getting people to acknowledge Homosexuality as none-satanic. Hell, even being Atheist wasn’t accepted until fairly recently with efforts from influential atheists such as Richard Dawkins having challenged the ideas of religion. It is also worth noting that most of these ideas and movements only changed white western countries. In certain Middle Eastern countries that have strict Islamic laws, being Gay or Atheist is punishable by death. But before I get ahead of myself, judging Lovecraft’s work and values by modern standards is insane.
Also, how is referencing titles of books in the title of a song bad? Further more, why should people police artists for using these titles? Just because you like a book by a certain person doesn’t mean that their values are your values. Some people could have read Lovecraft’s cosmic horror and not noticed the racial undertones to it, took it at face value and enjoyed the books. Its the overly PC culture that is stopping creatives from being able to derive creativity from all facets of society. If you can’t read something because it was written by a racist and you’re offended, then that seems like your problem, not their’s.
Also, the reason why people call you a ‘scene tourist’ is because of this attitude that because you don’t like something, it has to change. No, its not metal that has to change to suit you. If people are enjoying it and, believe me, I know women who like metal the way it is right now, then that isn’t a problem. I personally can’t stand bands that whine on about relationship breakups but love songs about war and death. Only metal provides that. Do the same as what I did. Stop complaining and find something you do like.
Your final point about Gordon Ramsey is wrong. Calling Gordon Ramsey an outsider is like calling Lemmy Kilmister an outsider to metal. Gordon Ramsey is wroth millions, owns multiple five star restaurants, has published multiple cook books, has had his own cooking reality TV show and has had his own cooking series on TV. He understands the trade better than any outsider ever would because of the shear amount of experience he has had building up his own empire. Also, if you don’t meet a specific standard in the UK when it comes to food hygiene, you can pretty much hospitalize someone, or worse, and have your establishment shutdown along with having to pay a hefty fine. Metal doesn’t have to live by that standard. That is why both a completely different industries.
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Go kick rocks. The last thing Metal needs are moral busybodies projecting their values on metalheads. In fact, most people are metalheads exactly because of such busybodies. Also, if you (and your ideological buddies in metal magazines) think gamergate was a spectacle, please continue barking under that particular tree.
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This “article” shows a serious lack of understanding of and research into Lovecraft’s life and the life of the writer himself (given that Lovecraft wrote more words than any other human being on the planet… ever., this is perhaps unsurprising.). An understanding of his life shows that ultimately it speaks to the redemptive power of the written word 9non-violence). Here is a man, born in the nineteenth century, both of his parents dying in the same insane asylum, who, by the close of his life had gone from being an anti-semitic Hitler sympathiser to the husband of a Jewish divorcee and democratic socialist who supported Roosevelt and the New Deal. “Cthuluism” is something that was invented long after his death; the Lovecraft Mythos he created was a fictional worldview that characterised one of the most gifted authors ever to exist in the English language. You should definitely do some more research and read everything that the man wrote (will take a couple of years) before writing such a nonsense, ill-informed opinion piece. Blaming Lovecraft for the sorry state of metal is like blaming Nietzsche for Hitler and the rise of Nazism. The primary problem with metal, as I see it, is the very poor vocal delivery (unintelligible growling and non-melodic snarling) as intelligible lyrics and vocals combined with insightful, unconventional lyrics that complement the exquisite musicianship of metal are key to connecting with the audience. Metal that reaches a “popular” audience without fail features a vocalist capable of the aforementioned (with the notable exception of Slayer, a band I do not like for that very reason).
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Nietzsche was a major contributor to the worldview of Gabriele d’Annunzio, who created the direct ideological precursor to Italian Fascism. The Fascist movement was the political inspiration for the Nazi Party. Your analogy does not work.
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You know, most of the time I type LOL in comments, I do not actually laugh. Maybe, a smile crosses my face. Maybe, a snicker. But your blog post legit made me laugh out loud. Thanks for the satire, guys! Totally stealing the motto. “If you disagree with us, you are part of the problem.” – brilliant! Cthulhu fhtagn!
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…..HP lovecraft was a horror writer. there is no actual religion around the Cthulhu Mythos. They’re a series of short stories and poems written as intentional fiction. If you are too stupid to realize this, your opinion on anything else is completely fucking invalid. Please, for your own good, stay the fuck out of metal. We don’t need your bullshit.
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In the attempt to invalidate it, the author introduces us to the concept of a “scene tourist”:
“[…] so many people in metal talk about “scene tourists,” which is a sexist term for women who don’t listen primarily to metal but who want to explore it and who make the mistake of — gasp! — daring to speak up about all the fucked up stuff going on in it. Maybe it’s a genuine interest in getting to understand the music of men, maybe it’s morbid curiosity, maybe it’s for humor, who cares? They’re our ears, not yours. And frankly metal needs more “scene tourists” to get involved and aggressively speak up.”
However, in her bio she admits:
While [the author] does not listen to much metal, she is very well acquainted with the problematic nature of the genre and provides a much-needed and much-silenced perspective on the darker side of metal.
So the author is herself a “scene tourist”. There is no sexism in pointing that out. Nor am I claiming ownership of her ears by pointing that out.
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“Nikki has been a fan of metal since 2015 but has yet to find her exact niche as most metal subgenres present as very exclusionary.” – “While she does not listen to much metal, she is very well acquainted with the problematic nature of the genre”. Oh look, it’s the aspiring Anita Sarkeesian of metal. As a fellow woman, and apperantly part of some invisible sisterhood you think you’re a spokeswoman for, i’d like to inform you that i’d have no problem with punching you straight in the ovaries 😮 :O 😮 😮 :O Add that to your “online harrasmentlist. Kisses, happy birthday, merry christmas and have a great evening.
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Ah where to start? A stand against racism and homophobia is great, but to start with Lovecraft? He started to come around after all when he married a jewish woman.
Why not start with the living assholes? Varg Vikernes, Hellhammer, Phil Fasciana or Phil Anselmo?
Once they are done, lets look at NS- BlackMetal. While we are there, what about religious bigotry in Satanism and all the kindergarten-kill-all-the-christians bullshit?
Then maybe we can talk about the dead retards like Jon Nödtveidt.
Many to go, before HPL is a worthy topic in this regard.
Way to much social PC justice warrior going on here…
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You are a liar and an imbecile. Kill yourself.
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Great Cthulhu says “GO FUCK YOURSELF IF YOU DON’T LIKE HIS MUSIC OR STORIES.”
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Lucky for the rest of us then, that we read Lovecraft and litterature with context in mind. The fact that some read books to get their own bias confirmed, looking for something to hang them on, that is borderline OCD. Seams to me that this kind of safe space, bubble making is the problem not bands making horror lyrics. What’s next? The mere idea of mentioning Twain and Conrad just confirs it. In the name of safe space you make yours and everyone elses cultural sphere a little more narrow, alittle bit smaller. Reminds me of this little gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ekngSyuLM
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It’s not an “inability to police itself”, it’s an *unwillingness* to police itself. And that makes the metal community great.
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Wow. A seeker of safe spaces in the metal scene. A literary critic who admits to having not read a word of the author she seeks to damn as the root cause of all that is ‘wrong’ in the metal scene. Whatever happened to ‘if you don’t like it, don’t do it’? This is a very sad article by a very sad author who neither understands metal music or its devotees and who has no ability to place literature in its correct context. 0/10 must try harder.
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Outsiders or “tourists” do not get to police us. Nor do they get to assume which of our influences are acceptable or “racist”. Modern rap is far more racist against white folk and i never hear the left complaining about that garbage. As long as Metal is embraced mostly by devoted young white males (and it still is) , it will be only those young white males who get to determine what is proper to sing about or not. Not for the loony extreme leftist thought police and P.C. party, to butt in on our scene. Let it burn them to no end. Just as TRUMP and BREXIT burns them now. The world is leaning more and more right due to such extreme leftist thought policing and they wont have any say at all if they keep up this bullshit. I like Satanist, Metal. I am not a Satanist. I like Christian Metal. I am not a Christian. I like So-called “racist” Metal. I am not a racist. Get over it.
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‘Metal has failed to police itself’? Metal doesn’t get policed at all, whare are you, a stupid nigger?
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“I will admit I’m not a Lovecraft expert” Never mind expert, you seem largely ignorant about many aspects of the man. I expect you read something about him on another website then fitted what little facts you have into your own world-view. Very poor.
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“If you disagree with us, you are part of the problem.”
So no free thinking is allowed then….that’s kind of fascist isn’t it?
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Hang on – – this is a spoof site right?
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Almost got me. But when I reached ”gothic grindcore” I was sure this is a troll
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